That’s a line from a recent Reason interview with Larry Sharp, who’s described as a rising star in the Libertarian Party. Sharp continues:

But I was more interested in other things. So when I became 17, I joined the Marine Corps. My examples of leadership and manhood were mostly Republicans, and my first commander in chief was Ronald Reagan, so I think I became more of a Republican as an 18-, 19-, 20-year-old. The first time I voted, I voted for George H.W. Bush. But I was never part of a party.

Then, in ’92, I heard Bill Clinton speak. I thought, “Wow, this guy’s different. He’s young, he’s new,” and I thought, maybe I’m a Democrat. Then I [realized] Clinton’s the same as all the rest of them. So I kind of thought Perot was the guy. I didn’t even know Perot’s ideas, I just knew he wasn’t them. Then I went from a Perot guy to a Nader guy. …

I knew he wasn’t an R or a D, and that was good enough for me. I knew Perot wasn’t an R or a D; that was good enough for me. I actually considered in 2000 joining the Green Party because it wasn’t the R or the D, but if you’d have asked me what they stood for, I wouldn’t have known. No idea. I saw that in a lot of the Bernie supporters last year—just like me, just wanted someone not in the mainstream, couldn’t tell you what Bernie’s policies were. A lot of the young Trump supporters, same thing. Just wanted an outsider.

In 2008, I heard Obama speak, and I thought, “All right, this guy’s so different, he’s got to be the real deal. I can get a winner and a change guy. Oh my God, Obama, what a homerun.” But he’s Bush Jr. No difference. He’s the same as all the rest. My people are still going to jail, my friends are still being deported. You know what? I was pretty much done. …

But I’d been burned so many times. I did not become a Libertarian right away. … So I actually went to the Libertarian Party, and I met Libertarians. And I thought, “Oh, most of these people are just like me.” …

The problem is, look, right now the Republicans and Democrats are basically just tribes. They’ve been tribes about 30 years. I mean that, they’re just tribes. They don’t have an ideology. It’s rule of the king. You can’t tell me a Trump Republican is the same as a Bush Republican is the same as a Reagan Republican. They’re different Republicans, because the king is different. As the king changes, the party changes. There’s no ideology. They’re only concerned about winning and beating the other guy. Nothing else matters. …

The Republican Party is breaking in half. It’s obvious they’re breaking in half. There’s the Trump side, which is just “We’re mad at the world!” And there’s the actual people who think the Republican Party should be about small government. Those people are coming to us fastest now. But once that break is clear, people are going to have to pick sides. In the next three to four years, give or take, in that area, they’re going to pick sides. They’re going to come to us.

The left is slower to come to us. But here’s the difference: If I can get 10 Republicans to come to us, five will go back. Or go alt-right. When Democrats come, less of them come, but they stay. They don’t go anywhere.

In the short run, Republicans will break, we’ll get a bunch. In the long run, we’ll absorb the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party will go away in 30 years. It won’t exist. It’ll be the Libertarian Party.

The most radical leftists will actually go to the Republican Party, because they’re all actually autocrats. It’s just my autocrat vs. your autocrat. They’ll go there and they’ll change the name of the party.