We have a new president, but what about the fate of the previous one? The U.S. House of Representatives has impeached Donald Trump for a second time. Will the U.S. Senate convict him? One of the senators who will have to make that vote is North Carolina’s Thom Tillis. On Monday, at our virtual Shaftesbury Society forum, I talked with Sen. Tillis about impeachment. It’s 4 minutes you’ll want to listen to, and then share with your friends. Just click the Play button below to listen.