Seligmann says his alibi defense came up and “Mr. Nifong sort of smirked to himself at the other table.” Now showing more of the court proceeding.

Osborn asking for bond reduction. Points out the air-tight alibi, says Reade’s not a flight risk. Stephens says that’s within the guidelines. “I’m not gonna hear your bond since he’s out on bond.” You can see Nifong smirking in the shot.

“At that point I think we sort of understood where we were headed,” Reade says. “For some bizarre reason” he says he felt if he could sit down with Nifong and show him that he would drop the charges. Says he felt many times the charges would be dismissed. When he learned about other DNA found he said, “It’s done, it’s done.” “I thought everyone was going to say they’re innocent, they’re innocent, this is a hoax.” Every discovery revelation was in their favor, “every single time.”